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Offline Mathlegob  
#1 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 17:56:30(UTC)
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J'aimerai quelques infos concernant les disponibilités, rythme de jeux etc... Sa doit pas être simple de jouer sur forum si ?
Et puis sa m'intéresserai, étant donné que je ne peut presque plus jouer... j'ai pas d'amis proches suffisamment motiver... Ou quand ils viennent il faut que je joue leurs perso à leur place parce qu'il ne sont pas aussi fanatique moi dans le domaine.. XD
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Offline LeoDanto  
#2 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 18:14:37(UTC)
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Bah... le rythme dépend de la partie dans laquelle tu joues, mais c'est lent.

Très lent.

Très très lent.

Un rythme rapide, c'est en général un post par jour par personne.
Donc dans un combat, tu fais un tour par jour.

Alors y'a des tables où ça peut aller plus vite (temporairement ou tout le temps).

Mais ça reste lent.

Donc il faut de la motivation sur la durée.

Sinon c'est très plaisant le jeu par forum. Ca permet de prendre le temps de faire du RP, de peaufiner des textes, etc.

Mais un scénario tout seul met en général environ 6 mois à être bouclé.
Alors ne parlons même pas des AP...
Offline Mathlegob  
#3 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 18:20:33(UTC)
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Ok merci. Sa peut être super mais c'est claire qu'il faut pas être pressé xD
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#4 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 18:33:21(UTC)
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Sur Aidedd, j'étais le MD avec les parties les plus rapides....
Pour cela, je pistais les joueurs avec des MP, pour qu'ils n'oublient pas de poster.
Disons qu'une petitecampagne, chez moi, se joue en 5 ans.
La 155, par exemple....on en est à l'avant dernière partie....et elle a commencé, il y a 5 ans tout juste.
La 153, ils en sort à la fin de la première partie d'une méga campagne...et ça fait 4.5 ans qu'on la joue.
Un module, c'est entre 6 mois et un an.
Voilà les ordres de grandeur des durées.
Il ne faut pas avoir peur de se lancer.....il faut juste avoir la chance....et après l'expérience....de choisir les bons joueurs.....ceux qui malgré tous les événements de la vrai vie, continueront à jouer.
Maintenant comme l'a dit LeoDanto....le vrai plaisir du jeu sur Forum....est le temps de réflexion plus long....trop long pour certains....mais avec plusieurs parties, ça remplit les temps morts d'une journée.
Et c'est sur forum que j'ai vraiment appris les règles pointues de Pathfinder.fr, ainsi que toutes les nouvelles classe et races.
Offline Mathlegob  
#5 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 18:41:29(UTC)
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Sa me donne envie de jouer =D Depuis le temps que je passe mes heures libres a me trituré les méninges pour build tout un tas de persos en rêvant à leur grandeur.... Ha lala !
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#6 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 20:46:03(UTC)
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Oui, on apprend beaucoup plus en jouant par forum, d'abord à chaque fois qu'on se pose une question on peut aller chercher le point de règle sans faire attendre tout le monde à la table, et chaque fois qu'on se trompe il y a plusieurs joueurs pour te remettre sur les rails en t'adressant le point de règle, et bien sûr on peut toujours encore poser une question sur le forum.

Oui, le mode épistolaire donne du temps pour peaufiner ton RP et réfléchir aux actions et réactions qui collent le mieux à ton personnage.

Et oui, du coup chaque rencontre peut durer des mois, même s'il ne s'agit pas d'un combat (en fait ce sont les combats qui sont les moins longs). Le MJ fait les descriptions et joue les PNJ, chaque PJ va poser des questions, le MJ y répondre, le bonjour çà va peut prendre une semaine !

Mais finalement le plus gros défaut, la plus gosse frustration que je rencontre avec le jeu par forum, ce sont les défections, les abandons de partie et autres pertes de motivation, et le pire : la disparition d'un joueur... Une fois prévenu, çà va mieux.

Pour ceux qui veulent savoir, je crois que rien que sur la partie où je suis MJ j'ai connu les trois plus gros départs du site : Mitch (pbms sociaux IRL, il nous a dit au revoir, alors impliqué dans un nombre record de parties en PJ comme en MJ), Setsu (très triste, il perdait la vue, beaucoup de parties aussi PJ comme MJ), et Kirion (un nouveau venu qui a pris une très grande place en quelques mois puis a disparu sans une explication mais en laissant quelques traces qui laissent à penser qu'il pouvait dire au revoir).

Juste pour dire que quand tu commences une aventure par forum, c'est génial, mais il faut savoir qu'elle peut s'arrêter du jour au lendemain (j'ai perdu cinq PJ dans trois campagnes et deux modules), et que tu commences avec des joueurs et finira peut-être quelques années après avec un autre (là je ne peux pas compter le nombre de remplacements que j'ai connu tant ils sont nombreux).

Cela ne doit pas t'arrêter bien sûr. Si j'en parle avec passion, c'est que même en mode épistolaire, on est en plein jeu de rôles. Et certains groupes se tirent de cette difficulté parce-que déjà soudés IRL.
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#7 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 20:57:26(UTC)
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Woah quelle émotion, surtout pour le pauvre Setsu, que je ne connais pas mais dont j'imagine la peine... !

Je conçois que c'est important, et surtout plus respectueux envers les autres de ne pas "abandonner" une partie et ses joueurs, dans la mesure ou ce n'est pas un problème grave.

Si j'ai le plaisir et l'occasion de rejoindre une partie j'espère surtout simplement passer de bon moment avec les gens présent dans la partie.

Pour les déplacements tactiques vous faites comment ? Et les fiches persos ?
Offline LeoDanto  
#8 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:25:23(UTC)
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Tu devrais jeter un oeil sur cette page.

Tu auras un aperçu des outils à disposition pour les parties par forum.

Tu peux aussi aller jeter un oeil sur les parties actuellement en cours. Ca te donnera une idée de l'ingéniosité déployée par certains MJ pour animer leur wiki et leur partie. Mais clairement, on dispose peu ou prou du meme matériel (voire mieux) et des memes conditions du jeu sur table (enfin la latence des actions de chacun mis à part).
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#9 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:27:11(UTC)
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Ah génial ! j'ai plus qu'a me trouver un MJ !!! =D AAAAH c'est tellement mieux qu'un jeux vidéo, une stupide IA qui dit toujours le même chose !!

A MOI LA LIBERTEEEEEEEEEEEE xD
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#10 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:43:16(UTC)
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Ah au fait j'ai "copier" le code de la fiche de personnage, mais après j'en fait quoi et je le met ou ? je dois déjà créer un perso, ou je dois attendre l'aval en amont d'un MJ ?
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#11 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:52:40(UTC)
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BigGrin BigGrin , l'impétuosité du débutant....Wink
Il faut qu'un MD t'inscrives dans une partie.
Pour cela, visites souvent le topic qui parle des demandes de partie :
http://www.pathfinder-fr.org/Forum/yaf_topics43_Recrutements-et-discussions-sur-les-parties.aspx

Une fois inscrit, le MD et les autres joueurs t'expliqueront ce qu'il faut faire.
Donc maintenant, il faut s'armer de patience...Wink
Offline Mathlegob  
#12 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:57:31(UTC)
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Alors je poste un nouveau sujet pour dire que je suis envieux de commencer une partie ? Oui je sais je suis un noob sur les parties forum... Mais a table en vrai, j'ai pas 10 ans d'expériences, mais je suis bon acteur et j'ai plus souvent Mjiter que jouer Laugh
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#13 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:59:02(UTC)
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J'espère que tu trouveras une table sur ce forum....ThumpUp
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#14 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 22:59:54(UTC)
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Tu peux si tu veux signaler que tu es dispo pour rejoindre une partie, mais tu peux aussi simplement guetter les appels des MJ. Y'en a en général au moins une par semaine mais il y a aussi la loi des séries où plusieurs parties peuvent s'ouvrir d'un coup.

Y'a de toute façon fréquemment du mouvement.
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#15 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 23:13:11(UTC)
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Mmmh actuellement il y a pas mal de demandeurs. Si par exemple j'ai envie de créer mon perso avant de rejoindre une partie... C'est possible ? Même si je dois l'adapter après.

Je serai déjà plus tranquille si mon personnage est créer. Car après il faudra que je me familiarise avec les codes et tout le bataclan. J'ai vu l'aide déjà, pour les manière d'écrire (dit) (pense) etc.

Mais la notion de mini wiki... Le MJ nous l'octroie ou on peut déjà avoir un espace pour commencer à créer son perso ?
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#16 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 23:22:26(UTC)
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Mais la notion de mini wiki... Le MJ nous l'octroie ou on peut déjà avoir un espace pour commencer à créer son perso ?

Bin, si tu ne veux pas qu'un admin supprime ta page parce qu'elle n'a pas le préfixe du numéro de la partie dans son nom, je te conseille d'attendre. Tu peux toujours faire une fiche de perso "normal" et après recopier sur celle du site.
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#17 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 23:24:05(UTC)
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*Plouf plouf*

Au commencement, c'est au MJ de prendre l'initiative de créer une partie.

Il peut demander aux sages (en général c'est Mériadec qui s'y colle) l'ouverture d'un mini wiki et d'un forum avant ou après avoir lancé le recrutement pour sa partie (la plupart des MJ attendent d'avoir une table plus ou moins définie mais on peut aussi demander avant qu'elle ne soit montée pour préparer le wiki).

Les personnages sont stockés et hébergés sur les mini wiki d'une partie.

Donc tant que tu n'es pas affilié à une partie, il t'est difficile d'héberger un personnage "en attente".

Surtout que tous les MJ n'utilisent pas les memes règles de création de personnage, et n'ont pas besoin des memes types de personnage, etc.

Est-ce que ça veut dire que tu ne peux pas te créer de personnage en avance au cas où?
Certes non! Tu PEUX te créer des personnages.

Cependant, tu ne peux pas les héberger sur le site pour l'instant.

Comment faire?

Et bien, tu créées le personnage de ton choix, tu génères le code et tu gardes ce code précieusement sur ton PC! Par exemple dans un fichier word!

Ainsi, tu peux avoir plusieurs personnages tout prets qui n'attendent qu'un copier/coller pour rejoindre une partie!
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#18 Envoyé le : mardi 3 décembre 2013 23:26:14(UTC)
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Ok, donc je la crée chez moi, puis je l'éditerai dans l'espace qu'on me donnera de cette manière, avec ce code ?

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